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U.S. President Donald Trump came to office promising to end illegal immigration through mass deportations. So far, border crossings have plummeted, and arrests by Immigration and Customs Enforcement have doubled. But for all the news of detained student activists, deported American children, and Salvadorean prisons, the administration is actually deporting fewer immigrants on average than the Biden administration did last year. What’s holding back their plan, and what might happen next?

FP’s Ravi Agrawal will sit down with Janet Napolitano, a former U.S. secretary of homeland security who ramped up deportations during the Obama administration. How can deportations be carried out, and what are the limits? They will also discuss the challenges faced by universities under the Trump administration, as Napolitano formerly served as president of the University of California.

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